EnerDel, a company currently working on building superb lithium batteries has resolved to expand their production facilities for a new project.
They plan on building the first Norwegian completely electric powered car. This vehicle will run on a 600 pound lithium ion battery.
These large batteries will power the “Think Car”, a vehicle ready to accommodate two people.
The expansion of their product plants will provide approximately 250 working positions for the surrounding neighborhood.
This is an important step forward for electric cars. Creating batteries that will last for long periods of time without having to charge. This is the future of electric cars and they will provide low cost traveling capabilities gas vehicles could never match. The ideas are out there, now it’s time for more research and production!
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August 5th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Unfortunately, the Think is a sign of the inability to build a practical electric car. I see from Enerdale’s rather high pressure salesman CEO, that the Thin’s battery pack will cost almost $18,000 and last no more than 5 years - the car will be a total failure once people realize that it can’t preform half the functions of a gas powered vehicle and that plug-in hybrids are the only electrically propelled vehcies that make any sense whatsoever. “pure elctrics can’t accomplish anything a Voly can. Actually a Volt owner will end up consuming LESS gasoline and produce fewer emissions than an EV - owner. All those
destinations over 40 miles away will require a gas powered vehicle which will produce double the emissions of the Volt and use zero electricity getting htere. EVs make ZERO environmental sense. They guarantee the continued need for gasoline.
August 5th, 2008 at 11:58 pm
Mr Bradshaw’s arguments far too simple for a complex subject. EVs are different from PHEVs, and are different from HEVs in terms of what a person needs in a vehicle. Each type serves a different purpose. The impressive energy and power of gasoline made it easy to please almost all customers. Now that emissions are an prime issue, we need to find out how to do more with less - a lot less energy. To slam a particular solution with unfounded statements is not constructive in my opinion. The Think has a good pedigree and Think Global and its investors have taken a bold, risky step. We could ask: ‘What risks has Mr Bradshaw taken recently to advance the industry?’
August 6th, 2008 at 12:13 am
Both excellent arguments. It is difficult to solve this crucial question.
Is the electric car worth it? It’s hard to answer this question, but a choice has to be made.
Is conservation of fossil fuels worth the price of reaching more efficient ways of producing these cars and batteries.
Perhaps the our best technology will work best at stretching gasoline miles rather than eliminating it all together…
Thanks,
George
August 6th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
I have to agree with the last couple of comments, I bought a Vectrix all-electric scooter thinking it would only be good for my daily commute to work, and have found that I hardly ever need to use the Prius. Since I can go 40-50 miles at up to 100 km/hr, (62 MPH) and I have a good-size cargo box, it’s good for the vast majority of my usage. I can’t recall the last time I purchased gasoline!
August 6th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
Arlo, you are one who sees the prospects of these alternative vehicles. For many they work fine. The point being made though is about the financial cost over the long run. When expensive batteries have to be paid for, will it be worth it. Perhaps a new system of trading in can be created where a new vehicle can be purchased after 5 years when the batteries wear out for a new vehicle at a lower price?
August 8th, 2008 at 10:02 pm
The 2002 Prius is running great on its original batteries, and I strongly suspect that by the time the batteries wear out, I will be ready to upgrade to a new vehicle anyhow. Ditto for the Vectrix, I bought it counting on the upgrade to Lithium batteries becoming available when the original NiMH batteries wear out.
I know that the fact that I have cash to spend on this makes me exceptional, but I am not sure I agree with the choice you present. You seem to be suggesting that we either make/use electric-only vehicles, *or* we use a hybrid approach to reduce the reliance on fossil fuels. I don’t see why we need to choose between the two. Yes, the hybrids have their place, but electrics should be seen as the first and best choice for local and urban errands.
I posted to point out that there are “real” electrics, ready for use in the real world today. It’s patently disingenuous to write off all-electrics as “impractical” just because of their limited range; for many of us that is simply a non-issue.
As for the cost, you get what you pay for. Since much of the cost of operating a gas or diesel-powered vehicle is actually subsidized by the government, and ultimately by our tax dollars that go into tax subsidies, clean up, and health care to pay for all of the nasty downstream effects of fuel production and distribution. If you could compare the real big-picture costs side by side, I suspect it would be a no-brainer: Make the investment now to get the technology up to the task. We simply cannot afford not to, and most of the cost of our inaction will ultimately be borne by future generations.
Arlo